Friday, December 3, 2010

Hiding my droopy eyelid / ptosis & other tricks to living with ptosis

So I decided to next write about my lifetime of trying to hide my ptosis from people. Again to recap, I have ptosis of the right eye. And eyelid retraction of the left. Which the combination of causes eye asymmetry that at least I perceive to be pretty dramatic. Ironically, alot of people don't really notice it which tells me that either its not that dramatic, or I hide it really well. I do think its the latter cause in my last doctor visit is was dramatically visible, and also easy to see in photos.

This condition for me has been going on for about as long as I can remember. Probably the earliest I really started noticing it was in college. About 14 years ago. It wasn't that dramatic though, or at least I don't remember it to be, cause I didn't obsess over it like I do now. The difference might have been 1mm, which is like 10% of my regular 10mm to 12mm size of eye. But as time progressed it moved to closer to 4mm. A pretty visible difference at any angle.

I will address this in another post, but basically how I felt about myself and my ability to communicate effectively with others, and any sense of self worth was affected by this. So at some point I actively was trying to hide it.

But just to back up for a bit, at first I wasn't that bothered with it. First of one eye was not retracting yet, it was still sort of stationary, meaning that aside from the normal eyelid movement range from the day, it wasn't pulling up to reveal the white above my eyelid. The other was a little lazy. But when I felt it being heavy, I sort of did this inquisitive thing with the eyebrow. Where I raise the far end, if anyone has ever The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert does it for dramatic effect. But I would do that quickly to simply lift the eyelid, and then it would seem to stay there for at least a bit. Recently, when I was explaining this droopy eye thing to a close friend of many, many years he told me its hard to tell that eye droops because I am always doing that inquisitive lift. I guess at some point I got so used to it that I was doing it subconsciously. So that worked for a while.

However more recently, and as I became more aware of how bad the ptosis was becoming. And noticing the eye retraction on the other eye, I really started to do mental gymnastics in front of the mirror to see how to hide it. I sort of for the first time had to actively figure out how to hide this from people.

One way, which I hate doing to this day, is I do NOT maintain eye contact for very long. Rarely for more than a second or less even. I hate not maintaining eye contact, but am so self conscious about the eye, that I just don't do it. Reason I hate not maintaining eye contact, is that I normally am fairly confident and want to show people respect by looking in the eyes. Somehow those intentions were drowned out from me over years of embarrassment, and so now its rare that I maintain eye contact.

To further provide detail, I tend to look at a person intermittently just to acknowledge I am paying attention. So I will look up and make brief eye contact to acknowledge person, and then be looking down or somewhere else during the conversation, with brief looks back. While alot of people do this, as this is pretty normal. No one wants to be creepy and just stare at someone. I sort of perfected the art of doing it very, very briefly. Sometime too brief to be socially acceptable. So its easy for it to seem that I am "not present" or "paying attention" but that's sort of the way it is with some people. Some people think that but not a large enough group to convince me I don't make enough eye contact. Normall I can offer enough verbal cues that I am still present in conversation.

So for example, I will look at person, and when they look at me, I will hold eye contact briefly, and I will turn away and in most instances look down at the ground or something while they talk. And acknowledge to be listen by nodding my head knowingly and looking up briefly periodically. While I am talking, I tend to be animated anyway and talk with my hands so there is usually a reason to be looking away or looking around, and only once in a while look back at person in acknowledgement.

Another trick is to furl the eyebrows, to really be dramatic with facial expressions. Most of those tend to obscure the eyelids, or even part of the eyes. I'm not doing this to the point of being comical, like TV host who exentuate every emotion for the audience and are over animated. Jim Carrey is a good example. But enough to hide the eyes a bit. When you furl you brows you can look like you are really focused on what the person is saying, and also hide the eyes a bit. Same with doing a squint where you shrink your eyes, when eyelids pulldown. Can't think of any exampel right now ehere that can be used.

My best trick in the book, which I lost due to a surgery for eyelid retraction recently (again, will cover in another post). is sort of hard to describe. But my ex used to call it the puppy dog look. I would put my chin down, and look up at people. Sort of with that "I'm sorry I chewed up the couch" puppy look. One it was convenient for getting symparthy when I did something wrong. But mainly very useful to hide the eyelids. Cause when I would do that my eyes are deep set enough that my eyelids were covered by my brow. Of course both eyelids pull up ok, so this only showed eyes and eyebrows. Could not see that eyelids were uneven. But at some point, you just look sad and sorry. So the key was not to lower you chin too much. You only do it a little it looks serious, inquzitive, and thoughtful. Even sort of intelectual, like "I'm listening intently".

Now, it might seem crazy to go to these lengths to hide how eyes look. Even writing this was somewhat embarresing, even if not a single person reads/sees it. I don't think I'm crazy :) I think I am just trying very hard not to be defeated by this issue. And honestly, I'm living in my own mind, and my mind has a certain way of interpreting how I should act to feel good about myself. I do have Obsessive Compulsive tendencies too, so it actually was not hard to follow some of these rules or tendencies. Although I do gotta say, it really is exhausting at times, to always be thinking about how you look. I have never been vail or really cared much if I was attractive or not, but this eye thing is draining because I simply want to feel "normal", whatever the definition fo that maybe. I look at peoples eyes, and always feel jealous now a days. Its alot to get over and a constant struggle.

I wish I could see into others minds to see how they would react (would they precieve my tricks as crazy?), but I don't personally know anyone else with ptosis. I envy the people who deal with ptosis and somehow do not let it affect them. There are some out there, and they are my heros cause they have to be mentally strong and sure of themselves. Here is one video of a girl who is totally cool with it, it seems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPf7rk1Zyoc. But for me the path has not been too easy. I would be conforted at least a little bit that there are other like me that have their own rituals. I'd like to know how they stay sane, how they avoid looking into a mirror several times a day, and so on and on.

We will see, maybe someone will find this blog and share their story. That's the goal anyway.

77 comments:

  1. As I was searching to makeup tips/how-to's, to disguise a lazy eyelid, I came across your blog. My left eyelid is droopy...not that severe compared to a lot of other cases, but it is enough to have always made me very self-conscious of it. It does bother me that my eyes are not symmetrical & it makes it very difficult to pull off certain eye makeup looks, which bothers me because I love makeup. It can be rather frustrating, but I do the best with what I've got. I try not to let it bother me & bring me down because I know I am an attractive woman & that most people probably don't even notice it. We are all our biggest critics...don't be too hard on yourself & remember that it could always be so much worse! :)

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  2. Thanks for your kind words. Its always good to hear another person thoughts on the whole thing.

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  3. I have mild ptosis in my left eye, and I'm fairly young (17). I'm glad I found you, because I share the same condition.

    With the brief time I've had ptosis (since I was about 14?), I've noticed that a pay a >LOT< of attention to it. I'm always checking whether my gaze looks ok in the mirror from certain angles, etc. I've kinda adapted a squint that hides the ptosis, but in the end I found out that all the hiding was for what I thought of myself, not what others thought.

    I never really knew what other people thought, though - I never told anyone or spoke to anyone about it, because I was sure they knew, but didn't want to mention it because it would be awkward. One day, I kinda embraced the fact that I am what I am - and asked people about it, and surprisingly enough, not much people actually notice that I have ptosis - infact some find it kinda cute!

    I noticed that I'd been too harsh on myself. Not much people actually pay much attention to my eyes alignment, and if so, don't really care. Try not be too picky about your features though, and try & find an outside opinion on your look - it helped me! You probably look quite normal to everyone else, and I really do hope you can find some form of consolation within this :).

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  4. This board seems kind of dead, but I want to just enter my own thoughts here. I have a mild case of ptosis in the right eye. If I had to compare it, I'd say it's more or less like forest whitaker's case. I hate it so much. I've had this problem since I was in 5th grade, and I'm nearly 24 now. I have no plans to correct it because the cost would simply be too great to me. And besides the ptosis, I also have an extra large, crooked nose (think largest nose in the room). I feel like my physical features have always kept me self conscious whenever I'm talking to someone, especially a girl.

    I use many of the same techniques you use for ptosis. I have this really old habit of just grabbing my eyebrow and pulling it up to move my eyelid up. I do this frequently, especially if I get nervous. It's not too noticeable, until someone takes a picture or records a video. At that point, all my physical features are apparent and just foster my insecurities even more. I haven't found a real solution to living with this condition, especially because I've been teased about it so much in school. Surgery is my only real option.

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    1. Hey Anonymous,

      Yeah, I don't really keep up with this board and maintain it or advertise it to get more responses. Sorta just wanted to put my thoughts out there one day during a particularly rough time.

      You know, I wish I had something real inspirational to say, but I know what you mean. I'm sorry you got it so early in life, cause I know kids can be really really cruel and mean. I lucked out a bit and started developing late in life, like maybe 20s. I don't quite remember. But it was passed the being teased stage. The reason I'm saying I'm sorry is because often times something is really not as bad as it seems, but when kids tease you it sorta gets in your head and makes one think, well it must be true. Its sorta built in. So I guess all I would say, is don't take it to heart. DO NOT let it affect you (or try not to). Easier said than done, but it will make you a super strong person to go through it, and come out at the other end.

      About talking to girls, I know what you mean. I have a really, really hard time making eye contact with girls. Especially girls. But I'm learning and trying every day to get better at it. What I tell myself is this, at some point I will no longer be on this planet, so who cares what this person or that person thinks. If they are not into me or thrown off my something about me, I don't want them in my life anyway. Its a real good way to get good people into your life. And superficial out. Again, easier said than done, and I struggle every day with this. But its just some thoughts.

      On the surgery, I am very pro surgery. But be really, really, really careful with it. Evaluate your doctors, be comfortable. I had three surgeries already. One for eyelid retraction in my left eye. It went horribly wrong (story for another time) and had to have if fixed by another surgeon. And then ptosis on my right eye. So I'm 3 surgeries in! And I have hopefully a final one to hopefully make them symetrical. Its a long, long process and I'm blessed to have found a great doctor. Cause its an emotional roller coaster.

      About the cost, if you have ptosis similar to Forrest, you can probably have that covered via insurance. I did on last one. Basically if any of your vision is obstructed by ptosis, it shoudl be covered and very, very low cost. And it doesn't mean you cant see when just looking around. They do this field of vision test, and any points in your field even slightly blocked and you might get covered.

      Don't know what else to say, but if you have any questions or just wanna discuss, you can email me direct at: ptosisguy at gmail.com

      And I'll just leave you with this song that makes me feel a bit better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ScPoBEFl1Y

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    2. I was born with congenital eye ptosis and my right eye is almost closed. Inhave learnt to live with it and I haven't even thought of surgery. I was born this way and am gonna live with it for the rest of my life

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  5. Thanks for great information you write it very clean. I am very lucky to get this tips from you.

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  6. I have ptosis in my left eye and have become really self concious about it. The problem is no one has ever teased me or mentioned anything. I dont know if its because the never notice it or because they thought it would be inappropriate. And whats frustrating is why didnt my parents have it checked when I was younger. Some times I'm too scared to put in my contacts because I feel glasses hides it.

    Like most people here making eye contact is really a problem. I visit the bathroom often just to see if my eye looks OK. I try to avoid staring out of the corner of my eye because then it can become really noticable. It really screws with my self esteem.

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    1. Sorry for late reply. I haven't been good at answering questions.

      I hope the time find you well!

      The thing why no one mentions it is, because while you notice it, the likelihood is that they truly don't! Remember, we see every imperfection about ourselves in stunning detail. Other ppl are not as focused. They are more focused on their stuff :)

      I prefer glasses too over contacts, because I feel glasses do a great job at hiding it. And I feel so much more confident with glasses. So I stick with those, and I dont really think much of it. I always liked wearing glasses.

      I completely understand how it messes with your self esteem. My go to response in all my replies is this, yes, I have self doubt. But so does everyone. Life goes on. Might as well make the best of it, not waste it. So I understand the self doubt. We're in the same boat. And like someone said below, this might actually make us stronger and better!

      Hope that helps!

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  7. I'm 13 years old and have a droopy eyelid. I've always been self-conscience of it, and many times try to hide it. I've had two surgeries, and they only helped somewhat. What can I do to hide this with things such as makeup?

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    1. i'm 22( female) and was born with ptosis on my left eyelid and when i was your age it looked a lot more noticeable than it does now which i think has something to do with the makeup style I now use...what colour eyes do you have?mine are brown and there are some techniques you can do to try and disguise it...you can use grey/smokey colours as the dark colours seem to make it less apparent i find and also if you use eyeliner on the top of your lids( but make the line thicker on the eye which is droopy) as this can help make your eyes look more symmetrical... i'm thinking of getting surgery but the doctor said it's going to be tricky to do as my lid is not very droopy so it would be a matter of half a mm or one mm..the thought of surgery scares me though..did your surgeries help lift the eyelid then? i have been thinking about getting surgery ever since i was about 12...but none of my friends ever brought it up and I was not bullied...maybe you should try speaking to your family or close friends about it? a few months ago I brought it up for the first time with two of my best friends who i have been friends with for about 13 years and they were both shocked as they hadn't noticed it and didn't think it was a big deal..so maybe speaking to friends about it will help? i wish i could say i don't think about it anymore but i want to be honest- i think about it every day, maybe like 15 times a day or something..when i'm looking in a mirror/talking to someone( even my family)/meeting some-one knew/talking to guys..but i have learnt to live with it and still have the best life! I have an amazing bunch of friends, i have had some pretty sweet jobs like working in a chalet in france and for ralph lauren...I love university ( i am currently on my year abroad in america),have done so much travelling and these things have all helped me become a very confident person..so you shouldn't let your droopy eyelid stop you from being confident and doing the things you love...and you know? if your a confident and fun person then people will most likely not really notice your droopy eye or, if they do, will see it as a minor imperfection that every person in this world has! oh and also,questions for other people on this thread- do you guys also find it hard to go outside without make-up on and has anyone had a successful ptosis surgery? as i am seriously considering getting this done...x

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    2. Sorry, I've been an absentee blogger :) Finally getting back to talking about my ptosis.

      To the 22 yrs old female ...

      Thank you for your thoughts to the other poster. They are excellent.

      As per your question about surgery, I have had four and can answer as best as I can. I do have ALOT of experience with what can go wrong, what can go right!

      You can email me or reply here: ptosisguy@gmail.com

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    3. Hiya, I am really considering the surgery and was wondering if you could shed some light on the pro's and con's of going down that route....What were the things that went wrong/well for you during the surgeries? Also, do you have a severe,moderate or fairly minimal case of ptosis, as that can affect the level of success i assume from the surgery...?

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  8. I'm so glad I came across this post! I started to think I was the only crazy one trying to desperately hide my ptosis ;)
    I do the same exact things as you!
    Another strange thing I do is adjusting angle of my laptop camera while I'm talking on Skype. I just place several books under the laptop and it works wonders :) unfortunately throughout the convo I keep checking myself in the camera to make sure I'm posing at the right angle ;)

    Regarding make up I do a couple of my own tricks:

    - I use a thicker layer of eyeliner on the eye with ptosis, - I avoid any pearly/shiny eye shadows as I believe it brings it out more
    - I curl the eyelashes on the affected eye to make it appear more "open"
    - I kind of "draw" a line with a darker eye shadow just above the crease
    I was also thinking of applying fake eyelashes on the affected eye just above the actual lash line on the eye with ptosis (not sure if it will work?)

    But what I learned is that the most important thing is to just accept what we can't change (unless you are going to do the surgery) and remember that we still are beautiful regardless of that little imperfection :)

    There are days when I wake up with puffy eyes and my ptosis makes me look like I'm missing half of my eye ;) but I try not to let it get to me and guess what- I still get compliments on my beautiful yet "imperfect" eyes :)

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    1. I'm very very late to reply. Sorry about that! Hope all is well a year after your original post :)

      Definitely not crazy by trying to hide it. We all try to hide little imperfections. And I see this as no different.

      And I like your positivity to end your message. You are 100% right, we just have to accept what we can't change. Life doesn't slow down, and we gotta experience it all. It doesn't wait on us. So might as well have fun, try to be happy, etc.

      Thanks for those positive thoughts!

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  9. haha it makes me laugh knowing that people are doing similar tricks that i do to disguise it!it's actually quite nice chatting a bit about it on this blog as i have always kept my feelings about it to myself which is a lot of stress to carry around with for 22 years lol..
    so i was just wondering if maybe other people think the same as me on this issue about relationships- basically, i'v had boyfriends in the past but never lasted very long and i think one of the biggest things that upsets me regarding having a droopy eye is that i might not get to experience a serious relationship/get married all that kinda stuff as i have ptosis- am i being crazy or do others feel this way too??

    oh and about your idea of using fake eyelashes on the one eye i think this might accentuate the droopiness of the lid but i could easily be wrong- let me know if it works for you x

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    1. Hey. I've got ptosis in my right eye (very mild).
      And I guess I feel the same way about relationships, I'm a 21yr old male and I've had girlfriends for very brief periods of time but nothing substantial.

      I think it will come to down to finding someone that will accept and more importantly someone you can let your guard down with (not have to worry about all these hiding ptosis tricks).

      I probably sound like a positive guy but in reality this ideal scenario sounds like a fairytale to me.

      I'll end on that happy note haha
      but I will say one last thing.... just know that we are the strongest of the strong, we live with one of the most sociologically impacting cosmetic conditions that exist.

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    2. Hey, sorry for the really really late reply. Is been a year since you wrote this, and I hope this find you well.

      I personally don't ever think its crazy to think about how droopy eye might affect your relationships. We all go through self doubt and what-not. And I can't comment in general in some broad strokes.

      But here is what I do believe. I'm a 36 yr old male. And when I was developing ptosis in my early 20s etc. I had very attractive girlfriends. One for 4 years and one for 7. And I dont have trouble meeting ppl now. My ex who I was with the longest was the only person who really noticed it. And it was only when I was really tired she told me. And even then it didn't really bother her, she said.

      I think there are two levels to it one is the initial phase. And then the long term. In the initial phase, you maybe, will have some partners that notice it. And if they do and don't like it, why the hell be with that type of person anyway? No one needs to be judged for physical apperance they can't do anything about. You are better without them.

      In the long term phase, people tend not to worry about what their partner "looks" like. They love that person. There are other qualities that are more important in the long term. Are they kind, funny, smart, etc?

      So yeah, I wouldn't really worry about it affecting partner relationships. I'd just focus on getting comfortable with you :)

      Anyway, hope that little rant helps!

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    3. First of all Im 24yo male with ptosis. I gotta say its quite intriguing reading to your story cause mine is just the same. Same problems with eye contact, constantly being conscious about your looks, doing lots of tricks to try to hide it, feeling insecure and so on. To some extent I got used to it. I think im fairly confident in contact with other people and when I talk with some random people I even maintain eye contact because I dont really care what they think about me. Also I dont have this problem when talking to some old friends who know me, to old people or to people shorter than me, because I feel that when they look up to you its not so noticeable. Although I gotta say I have problems with contacting with other girls especially pretty ones. And this is the thing thats sometimes drives me crazy. I've never had a gf. You've talked about initial phase and long term phase in relationships. Im also aware that I probably wouldnt have problem with living with gf in a long term. But I literally cant imagine going through initial phase, which involves direct contact, dating etc. Especially I cant imagine going out on a date with girl and sitting with her in some restaurant face to face. And come one... you cant have initial relation without dating and making a lot of eye contact... ;( So many times I notice a really nice girl, and even sometimes I feel that she also may be interested (because aside from ptosis I workout a lot and i think I may attract some girls, obviously before they see my ptosis) and I would really love to go to her and chat and maybe take her number BUT I LITTERALY CANT! Perspective of making eye contact with a pretty girl works for me like a major obstacle in engaging in any relationship.
      Not to mention that at this point I have almost zero friends due to year of avoiding people. As a young boy I was very socially active. But with time I started feeling comfortable only when being alone and in my room. Generally I hate situations with lots of people surrounding me especially when they can look at me. Also I'm avoiding parties which always happen in the night when I'm tired and therefore I look even worse than during the day. Thats why im lonesome without any perspective for finding a girl or having friends. Ptosis makes you introverted even if you were extraverted as a kid (which is my case). Now I only find sense in life by doing various activities that dont involve contact with other people like working out (as oposed to team sports), playing games and working (Im glad that my work doesnt involve contacting with other ppl too much).
      Anyway I wont write nothing more cause probably no one will read it although I have a lot of more experiences and feelings about this condition, but all of them are sad and depressive and I wont bore anyone with it.

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  10. I recently had surgery to fix the ptosis of my left eyelid. When the doc fixed the left eye ptosis - my right eyelid retraction became a non issue. Apparently your brain "opens" the eye without ptosis because it's getting a message that your other eye isn't operating optimally. I am very happy with the results! (And I also understand the tricks you are trying to use as a cover for your condition because I, too, became very self conscience and was doing some of the same things.....and I'm 59 years old.)
    Surgery was very easy. Good luck.

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    1. Getting to all the post finally :)

      CONGRATS ON YOUR SUCCESSFUL SURGERY!!

      Yes, I noticed the same thing. I have had 4 surgeries since the 3yrs where I posted this. Long story on why it actually took 4 surgeries. Has everything to do with one doctor not being very good, so I caution people reading this, to really, really do your research. I found a doctor that is the best in my city, eventually. If I had him at first it would have been one surgery.

      Anyway, you are 100% right. And its counter intuitive. But you the eye that is too high, will fall a bit when its not working so hard lifting like the ptosis eye is. So my eyes are significantly closer in alignment than they were before.

      Anyway, thanks for sharing and congrats again! Love to hear success stories. And ppl happy with results.

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  11. I'm fifteen and I have ptosis in my right eye. I noticed it when I first turned thirteen and it wasn't that bad. But two years have passed and I believe it's more noticeable than it originally was. When I wear contacts it's a lot more noticeable than wearing glasses. I'm super sensitive about it and I have been so jealous of people with "normal eyes". I think it's just because I'm a teenage girl and am aware of every flaw on my body. I dont't know how to apply natural makeup without my prosis standing out. Some days its not that bad and other days I feel like everyone can tell. My friends don't notice it but I'm not sure if they don't want to embarrass me. Although a few have commented on me squinting my eyes a lot(I find it helps and it looks cute when I smile and squint, or so I've been told). Overall, I think what I need self esteem and confidence to deal with ptosis.

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    1. from hindsight i wish i had been more open to my family and friends about how i felt with having a lazy eye....i'm 22 now and i have only just brought it up with a couple of my best friends and it was only this year that I really tried to explain to my parents how much it still bothers me and makes me depressed sometimes....this surprised them alot!! as i am not a depressed person at all...in fact i am one of the 'loud' ones in my group of friends...it's only when i don't have things to do that i start thinking about my eye and well...it sucks!!so i would definitely advise you to really talk about it with your parents/close friends whilst your still in your teens-i wish i had done the same as i'm 22 and still haven't really accepted the fact i have a lazy eye...i try to hide it with makeup but, really, i should just accept i have it and then i won't be upset or embarassed about it...but that is so much harder said that done!! in fact i am hoping to get surgery done on my eye next summer...which i am really really hoping will work as i honestly have dreams about waking up from the surgery and having 'normal' eyes...plus my eyelid is actually not very droopy so i'm hoping that might mean the surgery will work...who knows! But i like writing about it on this chat forum...so if you have any questions or whatnot lemme know :)

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    2. Hey,

      Sorry been a while since I visited this post I made.

      Um, yes being 15 and a girl, I'm sure its tough. I'm 36 and a male, and I still deal with worrying about it, and thinking about it as a flaw.

      But you seem very self aware in that, 50% of it is just part of being young and younger ppl tend to focus on stuff like what they looks like, what ppl think, etc. So since you seem smart and aware of that, try not to let it snowball to like over thinking or obsessing about it. I did that (obsessed), and its not a healthy place.

      Take in perspective. Be happy. Live life. Try to keep it out of your mind as much as possible.

      But also like the other poster said, the 22 yr old above, I would say talk to some ppl close to you about it. But be aware, the are NOT seeing the same person you are. We all see ourselves a bit more critically that others. Just human nature. But it is 100% recommended to have ppl to talk to with about it. Share you thoughts about it. Etc.

      Oh, I think i posted this, but here is a clip of a girl doing eyeliner to cover her ptosis up a bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNip5jUbb38

      Best of luck to you! If you have any questions. Don't hesitate to ask.

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    3. I'm now sixteen and my perspective on my ptosis has changed dramatically. When i only focused on my flaws rather than some of my prettier features, i wouldnt stop worrying about what people thought. But now, I've learned to stop caring about my flaws and just enjoy life. Basically, i've learned that people honestly dont care or dont notice your flaws because they are focused on themselves! So just keep on laughing and smiling :)

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  12. I would like to ask anyone out there if having a droopy eyelid affected them during job interviewing... In the middle of a job interview I suddenly remember my extreme ptosis in my right eye and look away or blink several times etc. Needless to say I am still looking for a job!! This has been so frustrating as my eyelid covers half of my right eye colour (brown) and it looks as if I am constantly winking at someone. Frustrating!! I wear only one lens in my left eye (soft daily use contacts) and it looking as if that eye is staring angrily and the other eye is winking at you. A few people have been frank enough to comment (family members) but not the general public. My Doctor told me to absolutely refrain from surgery as he said it would end up looking worse with surgery. I am now 52 years old (and this started around my 30's) but look younger as I am into extreme fitness and have great skin and a nice figure. But my eyes ??!! Help!! Any comments would be most appreciated.

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    1. Hey, finally getting around to some of the questions.

      The "it looking as if that eye is staring angrily and the other eye is winking at you" comment you made is really striking. Because that exactly how I feel sometimes. And it sucks :( I don;t know about you, but after 4 surgeries and several docs I kinda know why it happens to me. Not sure why to you? But for me, the one eye that is lazy has to work hard to lift up the eyelid. So the other is lifting up. Making not only one eye still look like its covering some of my brown eye. But the other one like its staring. So frustrating.

      So for that, not much to be said unless you are willing to have surgery. Here is what happens in surgery, and they cut the muscle in the lazy eye to lift it. And kinda not really intuitively the one which is too high, falls a bit and settles. My doc said its not trying to raise like the other one, so it sorta settles down. So my doc dis a few surgeries, till we got it close to where we wanted it.

      So, I am NOT opposed to surgery. It can be a really really beneficial. I'm 36 and my eyelid muscles are getting worn so it was getting worse for me too. Again, each instance is specific to each person whether surgery is the right course. So I would love to hear why your doctor said no surgery. Your particular instance might not warrant it. id like to hear what was said.

      especially since I am very pro surgery on this issue. I have some qualifiers that I can share too if you want. Cause it can get worse, if the surgeon doesn't know what he is doing. But most lifts are pretty easy. Whatever you do you DO NOT lover the one that might be too high, that is complex! And unnecessary as they often naturally lower when lazy one lifts.

      About the interview, even when I was self aware of the eye, I didn't really have trouble in interviews. I try to turn on the confidence switch so to speak :) Cause ppl (even without knowing it) can pick up that you are feeling a lack of confidence during interview. So I try to shut any of those thoughts out. And I don't exactly stare at someone. I'm relatively animated anyway so that might make it harder for ppl to spot the Ptosis.

      Anyway, it you have any questions about surgery, etc. ptosisguy@gmail.com

      Best of luck to you. I wish you the best!

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  13. heya,i was born with ptosis and it's never affected me in interviews so far...mostly because i am a chatty person and so i feel quite relaxed in interviews...although, that's not to say I am not aware of how my eye looks because i most certainly am! I try not to look down towards my lap as this makes my ptosis more noticeable so you could try doing that...it comes down to whether you can come across as an interesting and intelligent or whatnot person in the interview and then the issue of your ptosis won;t really be an issue! not sure if that has helped at all...feel free to ask me more questions if you like x

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    1. Hey,

      I totally like you positivity. And I'm replying to post now. I sorta tried to avoid this thread for 3 years, and 4 surgeries :) And now replying to people, I was reflecting on what I learned in that time.

      And its exactly what you said, the ptosis is there, but life goes on. Some days are bad, some are good in terms how I feel about looks.

      But just gotta move forward, be funny, be intelligent, be kind to others ... expose your positives, and the ptosis will not matter to others.

      Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.

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  14. Hey. I've got congenital(born with it) ptosis in my right eye (very mild).
    I'm a 21yr old male.

    Just wanted to add some of my attempts at hiding my ptosis.

    Here's a couple that I thought would have been mentioned as they are really affective.
    1) squinting of my normal eye to level out the size difference (don't over do it for to long otherwise you twitch like crazy haha)
    2) I tilt my head to the right in conversations so that symmetry(lack thereof) is less obvious (not sure if that makes sense but it works)
    3) MY FAV TRICK. get losts of sleep! because my ptosis tends to look worse if im tired.

    In addition to that I use some tricks that have already been mentioned, such as, brow furrowing, over expressive reactions in convos, and not holding eye contact for too long (but like I read a few posts up I also don't like doing this but it's such a habbit now I can't help it).

    Well that's all.
    Keep on keeping on people. It can be tough but life is worth it (:

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    1. Hey, awesome post. Haha! I have noticed doing alot of those points you said too!

      I can't reiterate how important sleep is. I work in IT and stare at a computer all day. And eyes get super tired. And ptosis looks bad due to it.

      But when I nap or sleep enough, its much better.

      Love your thought at the end. So positive! "Keep on keeping on people. It can be tough but life is worth it"

      Thanks!

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  15. I am a 31 yr old female with moderately bad congenital ptosis of the right eye. I had surgery at 3 which was a failure. I grew up with extremely uneven eyelid height. I had a second surgery at 26 that was also a failure as the lid dropped again due to the levator muscle being too weak. I am about to embark upon the frontalis suspension surgery as a final attempt to correct the issue. Insurance covered all of these surgeries.

    Growing up was rough. My lid made me very self-conscience. I never dreamed I would have a boyfriend for a day, let alone get married. Today I am an extremely happily married woman with a one year old. For those of you who fear this will inhibit you from finding a mate, fear not!!! This was my biggest fear in life at one point. My second biggest was that I would pass this condition on to my child. Good news, he is ptosis-free.

    For those of you who wonder how this affects your ability to get a job, I never had any issues with this. Perhaps your inability to land a job has more to do with your lack of confidence or the affect your lid(s) have on your ability to be confident, rather than your physical appearance.

    Tips I use to hide ptosis:

    Never looks directly act a person; I always turn my head a bit so they see my face from an angle. This hides it some in photos as well.

    Dark eye makeup works wonders. I cover my affected lid with the dark shade only up to the point where it is even with the height of my "normal" lid. I then use a medium shade up the crease and slightly above. (I hope this makes sense). I am glad I am not a guy as makeup really helps hide ptosis for me.

    I wear dark mascara on the top lid only and curl the lashes to open the appearance of my lid.

    I tilt my head up so that my "normal" lid naturally falls down closer to the ptosis height.

    I sleep on multiple stacked pillows to keep my eyes from getting puffy as it makes the ptosis worse.

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  16. hi i have ptosis too.my optician said that it was because the c lense in my right eye is much thicker than the left.i get so depressed about it & shy away from being in photos!! nobody has ever commented on it & sometimes i imagine when people are speaking to me that they are zoning in on it.i think it has gotten progressively worse as ive gotten older.one way i disguise it & well is by having a fringe to the side.ive gotten into so many arguments with my mam over been so self conscious about it, as she thinks that there are worse things.i try & smile too.my plastic surgeon is willing to operate but dry eye will then be a problem.paris hilton has ptosis & disguises it well.i agree with other posts that you can get hung up too much on it though & obsess over it!!will let you know how surgery goes xx

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    1. Hey,

      I'm finally getting around to replying to posts on here.

      I totally understand your point about the photos, etc. Yes, that can be difficult. And I'm sure like you say, you know what you see. And other people don't have to live in your shoes, so they don't see it the same way. So try not to be frustrated with your mom for downplaying it. Again, she is not in your shoes and see yourself the way you see yourself. My mom and dad did the same exact thing! And it was very hard coming to terms that (1) they want best for me, so they didn't understand my concern over the issue (2) they are older, married and dont really care what they look like quite frankly :) So their world view is different. When I came to terms with that, it was easier to accept they were not gonna see it my way.

      I don't really think surgery is a bad option. But it has to be with a highly skilled surgeon that does these regularly. I had four surgeries. One bad. So I have some experience now.

      But just be aware surgery will NOT be a magic bullet. You have to go in with that mindset. My eyes are not perfect now. They are better but not perfect. And that disappointment can be crushing. Having done 4 surgeries in 3 years, you really have to hedge your expectations.

      To your other point, while the issue EXISTS, we know what we see. You are also right that often we "think" its worse than it is. Its heard to break that mental cycle and obsession. So I'm glad you are aware that can happen, and I would say since you are aware of it, try not to go down that path of obsessing. Cause then you really do start to imagine its worse than it is.

      Best of luck. Let me know how the surgery goes! And if you have questions about surgery I can answer those. ptosisguy@gmail.com

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  17. im 20 years old and have had ptosis for 4 years resulting for ocular myastinia gravis. My social life has been non existent as time goes on because I have absoultly no self confidence since i feel everyone stares at my eye. I know that i could have worse things happen to me, but i just really want a normal eye. I cant even look at pictures at myself anymore becasue im disgusted by the way i look. My doc has given mestinon in the hopes that it will fix it. The medicine is certainly given my eye more strength, but it still isnt normal. I just hope to find the right dosage so I can get my eye and life back to normal. I hope to update you all with hopefully positive news.

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    1. Hey John,

      I'm sorry to hear what you are going through. And I totally understand and empathize.

      I spent 6 months without leaving the house when my first surgery went badly. And it was a tough time. And all the feelings you are having, I was too.


      I like you still have a hard time looking at pictures even though after 4 surgeries my eyes are alot better. Still not perfect, and very noticeable when I'm tired. But better.

      Anyway, the reason I'm saying that is cause its been 3 years since I wrote this. And rarely visited this blog since, cause you know, I try not to think about my eyes .... Well, anyway, in those 3 years I learned one thing. And its extremely hard, but I have tried very, very hard just not to give a crap! I got this one life, I'm 36 now. And its not stopping, and whether I'm self conscious or not, it goes on. And I don't want to miss out on it.

      So I guess I'm saying all that cause that would be my advice. As hard as it is, really really try not let it affect you. Try to let you other qualities shine through. Go have fun! Go work real hard at something. Do the stuff that makes you happy. Keep on doing them, and try to not think about the eye. It never stops (well at least for me it doesn't) but you can lesson it and have a really great life regardless.

      We're lucky to get what we get, so just focus on that.

      I would also say, sometimes (1) seeing someone to discuss this is really helpful.

      Best of luck hope to hear the positive news soon!

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  18. Hello All! I've never blogged or commented, but came across this when searching for blogs about children with ptosis.

    You see, two of the most important men in my life were born with severe ptosis in both eyes...

    AND THEY COULDN'T BE MORE BEAUTIFUL TO ME!

    The first is my husband, now 32. For months after his birth, his sweet mother had no answer as to why her baby would not open his eyes. He did have 3 corrective surgeries throughout his childhood to raise his lids and allow him to see without having to tilt his chin back. Of course even after these surgeries, he was teased as a kid for having "small eyes," but has come through unscathed because he focused on what he COULD control about his person, such as loving others and being an encouraging person. His heart is so beautiful that no one notices his eyes :) And of course I only see my handsome husband!

    My second love is my 6 month old son :) My husband and I did not know that his ptosis was a genetic condition (no one in his family had ever had it before him) but within a few hours of being born, our baby had not opened his little eyes. I just knew. I have to confess, I was saddened. I knew that this precious little life was going to face hardships like his Daddy did and it broke my heart for him. The doctors and nurses were supportive and helpful and I was actually relieved to know that we didn’t have to wonder, we new right away all about his condition. He went into surgery on the day he turned 4 weeks old. We were just so thankful to live close to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and have a doctor who performs hundreds of such surgeries every year! We know now that although his eyes are small, they have been opened enough to avoid him going blind! What a blessing!

    All of this to say, we are all made in the beautiful image of our Creator! I will pray for you all as you continue to struggle, heal and encourage! If anyone would like to be in contact with my family with questions or just to have someone who can relate, please let me know here and I’ll be sure you get you information.

    Blessings!

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  19. Hello! I'm 19 and have been living with ptosis for probably around 6 years or so. It's progressively gotten worse to where I began to notice it in high school, and now being in college I'm totally plagued with it. I feel like a leper sometimes, it's unbelievable. I used to work at a school, and kids in their naivety and honesty would straight up ask me what was wrong with my eye- it hurt. Because I know they noticed it and it's just the brutal truth. Unlike a lot of people here I've been very open with closest friends and family about it- I NEEED the comic relief sometimes of making fun of myself or holding everyone up before a picture to "get my eye right" or find the right angle, though after the laughs I still feel shitty about it. I am so hard on myself, yet I know there are worse demons to face, but for some ungodly reason this is the most agonizing, humiliating thing ever. It makes you feel so alone... Reading all these posts made me tear up a little because I've never ACTUALLY heard what anyone with ptosis has to say... just doctor after doctor, and well, my mother of course, telling me that I'm beautiful no matter what (thanks mom). While I know that she is right, and I do have a lot of confidence in general, I obsess to an unhealthy extent, pulling all the tricks in the book. The angle, the eyebrow, the lack of eye contact, gestures to make up for it, makeup, the socially awkward consequences, using eye drops in one eye. I mean, my mind was blown when I read about the eye contact- WOAH. That one is seriously ruining me currently, and it's safe to say I'm in the roughest part of the battle. Eye contact has always been very important to me, I believe they're the windows of the soul and I wish I could handle it but ALSO TOO having obsessive compulsive tendencies I find it hard to stop doing. I've already had corrective surgery on it about a year ago, and I wish I had read this beforehand because I was crushed when results were futile. My lid is exactly the same if not worse, and the guy I love is starting to think I'm acting strange because the way I keep eye contact with him is kinda goofy and seemingly awkward. When really, I just reallllly like him and don't want him to be staring at my eye (which again, is dumb, because he already loves me, has probably seen my eye when I'm not paying attention a million times and doesn't care). It's just affecting me SO much as a person, psychologically. I know it's a weight put on my shoulders only cause God/the universe/whoever knew I was strong and capable enough to manage, so I always try to keep my head up and a smile on. The corrective process is a long, drawn-out one when you are busy studying in college, with not much time for recovery and such. I feel discouraged from last surgery but hearing that it took you a few times makes me feel so much better you can't understand! I have to visit a couple more doctors to check out WHY it drooped down again/ my left eyeball does not move upward (so, if I do the puppydog look, i look like an absolute freak of nature because my lids are fine but the right eye looks up and the left is stationary)- the latter which gives me double vision at times, in addition to the lid is breaking me down and I'm fighting fighting fighting. You sound very positive, yet I can tell you came from a rough place. I am in that rough place so THANK YOU for creating this page, it was exactly what I needed to stumble across today to get me by. I admire your dedication in replying to everyone, even if it takes time, you have managed to provide encouragement for all, I really respect that!

    May we conquer our lives with all our pride and confidence and our totally unique eyes! (:

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  20. Wow what an interesting blog. I am so glad that there are people out there that are going through the same issue as I am. The people around me cannot understand how my ptosis has effected me psychologically. I was born with a ptosis and so my insecurities had started a long time ago. Like many of you, I have tried almost everything to avoid people noticing my ptosis.

    Is there anyone who can recommend a great surgeon for my ptosis in the nyc area? I have gotten one surgery when I was 18 and it really did not make a difference. I am not 26 and am ready to try it one more time. I want to be able to take a picture and look normal!!

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  21. I also have ptosis (I'm 13) and have had it since the day I was born. To be honest I never even noticed until I was five when on of the boys in my kindergarten class asked my mom what was wrong with our eyes (it runs in my family on my mom's side) that night my mom explained it to me. since then I've lived a pretty awesome life I'm on my schools dance team and I have a parade to dance in tomorow with my best friend Cassie and some of the other girls on the varsity team. I also would like to add that I also don't have very good vision in my weak eye though it is getting better and that my eyes are also very sensitive to bright lights and water. I love being different it makes me stand out (I also was looking for make up tips for the parade tomorrow ;-). )

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  22. Hi,

    Im 21, and was born with ptosis.
    When i was younger i didn't care much about it as i didnt really notice it. But as ive got older its got worse and worse.. Now i am so self-conscious about myself! It first started bothering me when one day, when i was maybe 13 or so, my mates and i where walking down the road and one of them walked in front of the rest of us and noticed my eye for the first time. He said 'why have you got one eye bigger than the other?' they all laughed and now ever since i cant even look in the mirror! This has affected almost every aspect of my life, its just too noticable and nothing i try and do to hide it works. I had surgery when i was very young,but it was a failure. Just recently someone branded me, in there own words "the chap with a funny looking face". Saying this i dont usually have people comment on my eye, only a couple of cases. But they are really hurting.

    i've taken weeks of education/driving lessons etc just to avoid going out when my ptosis is at its worse.

    Il probably be stuck with it for the rest of my life which is horrible to know.

    But without sounding so depressed, its nice to know people are like me in some respects, and i respect those who dont let it bother them!!

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  23. Hello.. I just read your post and i have ptosis too in both of my eyes. I was born with normal eyes but as I grew up then I realised that my eyelids were drop little by little.. and when ppl started to ask me "R U sleepy?" or "R U sick?" then I felt like there's sth wrong with me.. I become sick of it, sick of ppl questioning my eyes. So that i felt my eyes couldn't open up normally, I couldn't pull up my eyes correctly. Then i went to see doctor, and i was told having a Ptosis. Due to my weak muscle/sth.. well since that, i feel less confident whenever i talk to ppl / do a presentation in front of class.. this ptosis is really afffecting my social life, my my mental psychologically.. I wish I could do a surgery someday^^

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  24. Hello! I just wanted to share my experience:
    At first I thought it was curable, but when I first went to a doctor I was told that ptosis cannot be cured and that surgery will only make it the other way around, that I won't be able to close my eyes, and it sounds super scary as well. It was super frustrating..... I am still trying to live with it but it bothers me constantly.
    Also, I have a question: Does anyone find contacts helpful? For me I feel like wearing soft daily contacts in both eyes make my droopy eyelid less droopy, but it seems like people think contacts make it worse, I was just wondering if anyone also finds it helpful when wearing contacts?

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  25. I know this is so old, but i came across this post.. It's nice to know that you're not the only one with this.. i had ptosis on my right eyelid ever since i was born. Just turned 15 today, and my eyes were never a problem at all, until recently a few years ago it got worse. no one ever notices at first but sometimes others point it out to joke about it. For me, i raise my eyebrows higher and i also raise my head a little higher to make it less noticeable. My acquaintances think im high all the time because of my eyes are so tired looking (and they also think im tired). Because of this flaw, i use humor to drive attention away from it. I'm just sad that because of this, i lack the potential to actually do something. I can't go in front of a group of people because of the way i look, i can't look someone straight in the eyes in front of me especially a crush of mine. I'm always jealous whenever i see someone with nice eyes, sometimes i wish i can just wake up and feel "normal" and my eyelid to feel less heavy with the excess skin on it. I am super self-conscious and insecure because of this. Why me? No, why US? Out of all people... why should we suffer from such a flaw? I have lots of confidence, as in elementary i was bullied (because i was fat but ive lost a lot of weight now) but ZERO f**ks were given, but this eye... it takes all of my confidence and throws it away. I am nothing. I feel like im the kind of guy who can look people straight in the eye and be chill, calm, and just talk. But because of my messed up eye, i can't do anything. I avoid eye contact and i feel less than what i could be.

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    1. Hi! I also have inborn Ptosis and experienced a lot of bullying when I was a kid because of it. And now I'm in college and I'd really hate the fact that I can't look to people's eyes properly because of this lazy eye. so I tried all sorts to hide it like:

      -putting eye makeup especially black eyeliner and mascara
      -having fringes to my right side (because I have it on my right eye) so that I can hide its eyelids
      -wearing glasses

      I asked my doctor if I can have surgery for it though he suggested not to since I wouldn't like the effects. Also, because of having a lazy eye my eye grade became higher than I expected. Though having seen that we all have it, any only minimal percentage have it, and knowing that celebs also have it, I think we're just special and that God made us unique compared to other people. So let us all stay positive!!! That's what I learned through those hardships and confidence loss I had. :-)

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  26. it sucks,living with a left droopy eyelid.damn.it just happened suddenly,it hurts a lot,you know?when people call you ugly..heck i have been named "pirate"..its been operated twice,the doctor says i've gotta live with it.why is accepting it so hard? i am damn insecure.i have zero confidence and i hate it when people ask me what happened to it.it isnt my mistake now,is it? my mates think i am never gonna get married,that no guy is gonna love me.why? cuz of the eye. its hard,trying to pretend as if i am not affected.i cant even talk about it to my parents! i dont know what i can do..accept it and live with it?

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  27. My left eye is probably 2/3 closed. I've never seen anyone else like me in person.

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    1. you're still beautiful.you don't need to,you're one of a kind!

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  28. Hello.

    I don't know if people still read this post/replies, but I'd still like to share my experience.

    I'm a 22-year-old with a very noticeable kind of ptosis (my eyelid ends just above the pupil). Just like everybody else here, I was bullied because of it when I was younger (mostly in high school). They called me things like "the chinese" and "ching chong" and generally made me feel like a freak of nature. Being an introvert and shy person, this made me even more socially awkward and ashamed of myself.

    It's better now at uni, though I still feel like an outcast. My self esteem is low and I have a hard time making new friends but I don't constantly hate myself like I did in high school. I know that I'm a good person and despite all, I'm still happy being me. Sometimes I even forget that I have ptosis.

    However, other times, especially when it comes to dating and love and boyfriends, the self loathing is back in full swing. I've never had a boyfriend, I've never even been kissed (god, it sounds so pathetic) and sometimes I think I will be alone forever because of my stupid eyelid. This is ridiculous, I know, but it's still something that always pops up in my head whenever I go into 'self loathing-mode'.

    I try to think positive thoughts ("I'm a good person", "screw them if they don't like what I look like"). I try to not to hide my eye behind my bangs or to not look down whenever I meet/walk by someone, but it's hard. A few times random people I've passed on the street, mostly "cool" (read: delinquent) groups of boys, have muttered: she's sooo ugly, to me. Those times I hate myself so much. Contrarily, when with family and friends (though I can't say that I have that many) I often forget that I look different.

    Phew, this got kinda long, but it's how ptosis have effected me. I have never told anybody about my feelings (nor confided online) because, you know, you don't talk about these things.

    Anyhow, reading about other people with ptosis (knowing that I'm not alone) have helped me to feel better about myself. So, as an endnote, I just want to say: If you're reading this and got ptosis - you're not alone! I know how you feel, I know all the pain and all the shame that comes with being different. But here's the deal (that we seriously need to hear more): being different is okay. Having ptosis is okay. You're still a person worth loving and if people don't like you because of your eyelid they can go FUCK themselves.

    I know that this is hard to take in, especially when we are singled out both by people around us and ourselves. But it is true, in your heart of hearts you know it is.

    -

    Also, if you want to talk to someone feel free to email me (dagmarsaxa@gmail.com).

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  29. Hi- Before my eyelid surgery I had ptosis on my right eye and it bothered me greatly!! I didn't do eye to eye contact with people due to a friend saying to me one day "EWWW" what is wrong with your eye? then I knew it was noticeable, Well, one day searching through the internet about eyelid surgery I ran into "eye lid contour strips" The reviews on them were great so I ordered them..They worked great for me until my surgery, they really fixed my ptosis problem. Try them!! They're great!!

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  30. Hi, I am a 17 years old girl who was born with a ptosis. I wasn't aware of it untill the age of 10, when I started to look at mirrors more than usual. I realised that my left eyelid had been dropped and since that day, if I don't look up, at least 20 cm up, I don't feel comfortable. Eye contact and looking to my photos are my scariest nigthmares. I find myself weird and ugly. If only my face was symmetric.. I am a cute girl and I feel awful when I think I could be a normal beautiful girl who doesn't feel insecure all the time. I was bullied with this problem of mine several times and whenever someone asks something, makes a joke about my left eye, I start to hate my look and asymmetry. It is like my weakpoint... How can I overcome this.

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    1. acceptance,love.see,its never about who you think you can look like.its about how you look at yourself. hating is part of acceptance.you begin to hate yourself.but really..is it worth it? hating yourself for no mistake of yours? there's someone who'll look past all of it. you say you're cute,which i completely agree with then what's the worry?go ahead,be you,for you and your well being.the rest will fall into place,love.

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  31. Thank you , thank you , thank you.I can't stop crying after readimg this. God bless

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  32. im facing sudden onset of ptosis and absolutely devastated its happening so soon before my wedding. but my fiance couldnt love me more and reassures me that he will stick by me in the toughest times. that said, although i am pro surgery i already have double eyelid sutures from before that significantly complicate correction. anyone with similar experience?

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  33. I have ptosis on my left eye. I'm going to another school next year and i'm scared to get bullied :(

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  34. I wanted to tell you guys that since a couple of years im loving the fact that I have ptosis although I struggled with it for years. I always had a feeling that im different from everybody else, and guess what.. I am :-)

    At age 14-17 it made me very insecure and very self-conscious, I always had the feeling that everybody is looking at me. My ears are a bit bigger then average and my eyebrows are really small (basically, it looks like I shaved off half my eyebrows but I didn’t. Solution: eyebrow pencil ^^) and im born with ptosis on my right eye. I felt ugly, a outcast and not understood. Luckily I have my brains :-)

    It became my obsession to become normal/populair and 'be liked in this plastic world’. I devoted a lot of time studying body language, self confidence and social dynamics.

    All of this knowledge and experience really added tremendous juice to my personality. When you are different and you convey positivity/confidence people love you and want to get to know you better (especially the case with girls!)

    Nowadays im 24 - guys like to hang out with me, girls think im interesting and sexy and every now and then, mostly during clubbing strangers tell me I look like Joseph Gordon or Mark Wahlberg. And guess what? I still don’t like pictures, and try to avoid mirrors when im surrounded by people I don’t know well.

    Don’t feel bad if your face is not symmetrical. Your UNIQUE :-)

    Use it in the right way and it becomes a advantage over everything else. Let me quote some lines from a interesting article that you might want to read:

    “While we may judge symmetrical faces as more attractive, those aren't always the ones we are most drawn to sexually or romantically. How many times have you felt mesmerized by someone's looks, and you can't quite explain why? We tend to go for the people with more interesting or exotic features, slightly asymmetrical- still beautiful, but not too perfect.

    We are intrigued by things that don't quite seem to fit. When we see a symmetrical, algorithmic pattern, our brain can interpret it quickly, and we feel at ease. However, if there is a non-symmetrical pattern or complex design, our brain lingers on this info to try and decipher it.”

    I hope I inspired someone by sharing a piece of my story, be proud to be different and have a great day!!

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  35. In addition to my last comment: http://www.science20.com/rogue_neuron/science_pleasure_part_one_allure_asymmetry

    Cheers,

    KB

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  36. Thank you so much for this blog. my right eyelid droops a little due to excess skin on the eyelid. i always knew my face was asymmetric .it was evident from the obvious contrast between my mirror image and my actual image (photographs) . also my left cheek bone is more prominent than the other.but i never really looked closely enough to notice that i had ptosis.
    but now that i know it i am very conscious. i avoid getting photographed and maintaining eye contact with people.
    from the time i realized that i have ptosis i've been panicking!. i've consulted with doctors who said the only way to treat it is through a surgical lift. my family and friends are not really encouraging the idea of surgery because, according to them the droop is very mild and not that obvious to go in for a corrective surgery .and it is not bad enough to affect my vision either. i always thought they were trying to convince me but in your blog i can see a lot of people saying that their friends and family never noticed anything wrong with their eye. i wonder how it is possible that even the people who have known us for years failed to notice it. do they really don't notice it or are they just being nice?
    i don't feel like going in for a surgery but, whenever i look at a photograph of mine i just wish i could do something to look normal. its affecting my confidence, i am avoiding people, i don't feel comfortable in speaking to new people... i am always thinking of ways to conceal it.
    i found this blog while searching for ways to conceal ptosis. it really helped to know how other people with ptosis are dealing with it. thank you all ..

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  37. Hi everyone, thanks so much for writing and sharing - the comments here actually put my mind so much at ease! I'm a 25yo Canadian who has mild ptosis (1mm or less according to the MDs) and excess skin on my right eye - it gets a lot worse when I'm tired and as with everyone else, I tend to obsess a bit too much, especially if on a date or networking/meeting new people...

    I saw several doctors here and was skeptical but the first cosmetic surgeon I saw recommended (as did all the others after) AGAINST surgery, saying the ptosis would get worse over time, it's not so noticeable now, and under 1mm is easy to overcorrect, so not worth the risk - any thoughts or anyone with similar experience? I am still heavily debating surgery since at times my eyelids are for sure drooping 2-4mm and I find it quite obvious, I guess because the doctors measure from your iris outwards and that's how insurance bases it, it's not terrible, but you know what I mean...

    Anyway, in the meanwhile, shocked no one mentioned this - there is a VERY useful trick/compensatory prescription drop that is meant to reduce pressure in your eyes but actually stimulates the levator muscle and can make the ptosis go away temporarily!! In Canada at least, the prescription is: IOPIDINE 0.5% - apracionidine hydrochloride opthalmic solution, USP - DIN # 02076306. It was designed for glaucoma therapy but 3 doctors mentioned it and prescribed it, so presto. Mine has only been available as 5mL little bottles, and 0.5% is the LOWEST strength, but you can get higher %s or use more drops - I've been using it for a few months and it IS A MIRACLE!! Within a few minutes it makes the ptosis-affected muscle activate more strongly and my eyes are magically even (except the slight hooding by my excess skin still somewhat there) for at least 3 hours. The annoying part is it obviously wears off, so I carry the drops with me all over now, but I am not kidding and seriously, seriously recommend everyone look into them as a really, really nice fix when needed temporarily, or to put you at ease more often. Other side note, you will develop a tolerance to them as with any drug, so I already need to use 2 drops when it was 1 before, but hey I think over the course of a few YEARS, they make a great buffer before surgery/photo ops or anything.

    If anyone has found something similar or knows anything more for this product's usage (all the docs reco'd it and one mentioned it can lead to more functioning issues, but the other 2 docs said that is false and people with ptosis use these drops forever), please post. Likewise, are the EyeDefining Contour Strips that good? How long do they last, how do they work etc.?

    Thanks again to everyone for being open here, amazing find and good luck and full support to you all - this is such a minor cosmetic thing in the grand scheme, but you are all super strong for managing it as it can hit your insecurities a bit!

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  38. Hello, I am a 19 year old girl from England and I also was born with Ptosis. I don't know if anyone will even look at my comment but from looking at other people's comments I feel like I can relate to people despite never meeting any of you.
    I don't know where to begin but as I get older I seem to become more and more self conscious of my left eye. High school was the most horrendous times of my life where I faced people who did not understand that people are different and my left eye was often a problem for some people despite, only being a few mm difference. I remember one time that still haunts me to this day when a boy in my class made a horrible comment as I walked out of the room in front of all my class mates. He said "There goes the bogeyed freak", I had never felt so humiliated in my life, in fact I could not stop crying for days. I always felt I never fit in or was never popular just because of my eyelid but I felt like I was accepted when I started going out with this boy. This boy loved me for me and accepted me for who I am, he always called me beautiful.... I finally felt accepted for me and my imperfections.
    However, a few days before my 16th birthday I decided to have surgery to try fix the problem. After my surgery I felt like a new person, I could look at photographs of myself and actually feel happier in the way I looked. The outcome of my eye was still not completely symmetrical but it was a slight improvement.
    My eyelid still bothered me but was at the back of my mind but when I started university and my relationship ended, it all came back again. My left eyelid is constantly swelling up when I wake up in the morning and looks so puffy. My eyelid sometimes aches because my eyes feel so heavy and its just becoming more of a problem. At university I am faced with new people all the time and I do find it very difficult socially when I walk past people and that awkward eye contact (which I try to avoid by looking away ).I feel that people judge me or probably think "Err what's wrong with her eye". When I go out I panic at the thought of club photographs in fact I feel myself dying inside. I have never felt this insecure in my life and I feel like boys won't give me a chance or even think I'm beautiful. I have put much thought into the decision of another operation because I just want to look normal and not feel this ugly. I know there are people in the world who have disfigurements and problems much worse, but I can't help how it makes me feel as a person. I'm hoping one day that I will embrace my uniqueness and love me for who I am.

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    1. Hi! I'm responding to your comment just so you know that someone did read it, me! I understand most f what you're going through but it's a little different for me-- I was born with ptosis, but no one has ever really mentioned it to me. Except, once my sister said "I love the way your eyes are different sizes!" and that made me feel so so so uncomfortable. She said something like that again but I ignored it. Oh how I wish I had a mild version of ptosis where no one noticed, but obviously if my sister noticed, everyone notices most likely. I was born with one eye open and the other shut. I'm not really sure what happened after that because no one has told me, but in all my photos as a child it's obvious that one eye is bigger than the other. I have never ever talked about it with anyone ever, and it is the biggest weight I carry around with me. At least 50 times a day I think about it; I can't look anyone in the eye for more than couple seconds and I have to tilt my head up to conceal it. I think every single person is staring at it when they talk to me, and I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I'm too embarrassed to ask them if it is. I wish i could make eye contact with people face to face but it's so hard. I am constantly thinking about it and I hate it. I have thought about surgery briefly but I don't want to go through with it in fear that it will make it worse, and also, I really just want to move myself for who I am. I don't believe in changing myself for beauty purposes, so I really don't want to have surgery. Reading all these posts is so amazing. There are no words for how I feel reading about everyone else's problems with ptosis. Its a wonderful feeling to feel that you are no longer alone. Writing this and getting it out in the open is also so relieving. Hopefully one day I also will love my eye in all its droopiness, but for now I just have to keep trying (because it's so hard!). Thank you all for sharing and it really does bring me to tears reading all of your responses!!! Finally I know other people have the same confidence issues as me.

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  39. I can't believe I just found this board. I was born with a fairly severe case of ptsosis in my right eyelid. My eyelid wouldn't open more than just a little bit. I had surgery at 4 years old, at 11 years old (at Mayo Clinic), and at 27 years old. I always got questioned about my eyelid but kids under 9 years old were much more accepting. Middle school was the worst time of my life. Kids used to call me Sloth, after the character from The Goonies movies. I was teased and tormented beyond belief. People say it has become less noticeable as I have gotten older, I am 37, but I still see it every time I look in the mirror and in every picture of myself. I hate having my picture taken. I never spoke up or let on to my parents how much the teasing hurt. I wish I would have talked to someone and gotten help when I was young because I let those kids ruin my life. I am still single because I have no confidence in myself and I don't trust guys because the middle school boys would pretend to like me and then tell me they were just joking. Anytime I date a guy it's like I am waiting for him to laugh in my face or something like that. I actually can't remember the last time I had a date. And my dream in life was to be a wife and mother. My advice to young people dealing with this is to talk to someone. Don't keep all of your feelings hidden away. Talk to someone who can help you learn how to deal with the teasing and lack of confidence. One other thing, find a really good photographer and have some pictures taken. The photographer I had for my high school senior pictures was phenomenal. He knew just how to have me angle my head or change his position so that my eyelid was hardly noticeable. The only pictures I have ever liked of myself. I have never met someone else with ptosis, but know you are not alone.

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    1. hey! i am 30 years old struggling with a similar situation. i have had ptosis in my right eye since i was born and i struggle to deal with the confidence and psychological apects on a daily basis.

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  40. Its 2016 and I just came across your post. I have ptosis if both eyes since birth. I have been teased all through grade 1 to highschool about it. I have had teachers (new ones or substitues) ask if was drunk or on drugs. I have people ridicule me daily in public, mostly strangers who think I'm crazy or on something. I tend to keep to myself because it seems like no one understands what its like to have people stare at you where ever you go. When i was younger it felt so horrible when strangers would come up to my mother and i and say nasty things like call me retarded, the worst one happened at 8 years old at a family reunion when a crowd gathered around my mother and i and they all kept asking her why she didnt just abort me. Thats when my mother started doting on my sisters and would ignore me. But i feel bad for her i know she lived through years of turmoil and suddenly things became normal when i stopped going to family get togethers, social events and everything else. Im not a shallow person but Its embarrassing when my little nephews ask me to take them to the park because 1 out of 3 times I will have a parent yell at me because they think I'm drunk. The police know me well, I have had the police called on me while shopping, jogging, walking in my apartment complex ect... Now I just keep my medical paperwork on me all the time. I can't get surgical help because of the medical condition that causes the ptosis. It sucks but I'm glad I found ur post it makes me feel less alone. Thanks for your post it means a lot to me.

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    1. I don't have it nearly as bad as you. Right now I am at the point where I can't work. I have severe ptosis in my left eye. The $21,000 surgery didn't work. They keep passing me off from 1 surgeon to the next. I have seen 11 Drs. so far. I don't know what I have or what to do. I hope you find solace. Depression is a horrible feeling.

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  41. I know it's an old post but I want to say I deeply understand every single word you said. I have Ptosis with my left eyelid. I remember I had a hard time in school ..kids called me Pirate and I was really sad about it...I avoided to make long eye contact with people even to this day, I ridiculously used my fingers to stretch up my eyelids, I used to make the other eye smaller to make the balance and I did it really good LOL! I hated my pictures,like you said I just wanted to be normal...But life is going on and we should concentrate on other things and try to deal with it.

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  42. I had ptosis in my left eye since I was 12 years old...I'm now 41...needless to say I was a very unhappy child and adult. I had eye surgery to make my right eye smaller but the ptosis was still visible. I'm now using the Iopidine drops and it makes a huge difference. I'm thinking of having surgery soon. Eye makeup also help. I wish I was introduced to the drops earlier!

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  43. So... Yeah, almost 7 years have passed and hope you are better in dealing with it. I have ptosis. Had surgery 2 years ago. Now I have eyelid lag. Which sucks. Because, I used to be a NORMAL looking girl with a lazy eye, meh.. But now I look creepy. Not normal. Not good. Cannot have normal conversation (because when I look down, I look creepy and lose track of conversation), cannot sleep normally - like, shut your eye and sleep. no. cannot do that. Cannot live. I will have a second surgery (revisional) and will see what happens. However, doctor says your eye will never EVER shut normally that it used to be. Besides, it can be worse - can be droopy again this time and have lid lag at.the.same.time. My life is ruined, simply.
    By the way, I am 28, a girl, single and who cannot make a relationship because of this self-consciousness. What the heck will I do with my life? I even want to die.

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  44. Droopy eyelids are real struggle. my husband has been suffering for 20 years. Eventually he has made a surgery. It was not long procedure. It was not too expensive, too. Thank you for your article. Hope you are fine.

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  46. hi all
    about ptosis i have had ptosis in my left eye my whole life. it really affected me as a kid, like getting bullied lack of friends low self-esteem, after facing my harsh childhood i forgot about my eye , and i started developing a worse condition worse than my eye. it was affecting my body, my posture looks super bad due to this condition. the problem is that its getting worse each year unlike my eye which i forgot about(not completely but i still try to hide it unconsciously although i keep eye contact) now i worry more on my body and less for my eye because its much more noticeable. i wish i only had one problem in my physical appearance i have many thats the two major problems which drowned my confidence.
    sorry for my explanation and my bad English its my second language.

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  47. Very well written.. Few years back i too was suffering from this abnormality and got it treated at Oculoplastic Eyelid Orbit Surgery. Feels very much confident after getting it treated.

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  48. Wow. cool post. I’d like to write like this too – taking time and real hard work to make a great article… but I put things off too much and never seem to get started. Thanks though.

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  49. I totally agree with you. I too have ptosis of the right eye & ever since I was in my late teens, it has been awkward interacting with ppl. Afraid they'd notice my uneven eyes. I had few friends and when I would talk to ppl I too try to look away occasionally. I found that using certain eye drops, curling eyelashes and using eyeliner a certain way can help.

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  50. Do you mind sharing what kind of drops?

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